Need foyer/stairs/half bath help!!
I am working on our house design and I'm hitting a snag with our foyer area. Here are the details:
Foyer area: 8'W x 15'10"D
9' Ceilings
Stairs on the left up to bonus space/future bedrooms. Standard stair tread depth/height, etc. Nothing too steep.
Archway on left to Dining Room. Single doorway on right to Study.
Archway straight ahead to Hall/Living room.
Can/Should I fit a Half Bath under those stairs? I would really love to have a Half Bath so guests don't have to see or use my kids' bathroom.
If I can't fit a Half Bath could I do a 90 degree turn to the right a little more than halfway up the stairs (with a landing) and still have room to walk under it to the Archway to the Living Room?
I can't seem to wrap my head around stairs and how they fit into a space :(
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Comments (3)Empty out the furniture and fixtures there, including the lamp and ceiling fixture.Use a storage bench instead for a place to sit and remove shoes. Shoes or backpacks can be dropped inside it. You can get much better lighting from a fixture that has lights to wash the ceiling and to light the floor. What is under your stairs? Do you have room to install some storage there? Pull out stair drawers might work for shoes, and you might add some pull outs under the stairs if they are suited for it. A foyer should serve to introduce you, your style and the decor to be expected in the adjoining rooms. I would key furnishings and paint to what is going on in the rooms left and right of the foyer. Everything I see hanging on the walls is hung too high. The general rule is that the center point of a single piece or a grouping should be 5' above the floor. If the first piece at the bottom of the stairwell is hung at that level, you can use painter's tape to tape the center line all the way up the stairs and arrange pictures above and below the line, with a few centered right on it for a more pleasant arrangement. Not knowing much about the rest of your home or your personal style, I might suggest you paint a soft color like Sherwin WIlliams Sea Salt....See Moresewwriterepeat
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8 years agoThank you Fred S. :) Your math helped me out a lot!!
Based on this math the front of the toilet would be ~33" from the sink wall... If I did a corner sink would that be enough room?
I had to go with the 150" stair run length since 158" would cut into the already-small archway for the dining room.
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8 years agoUser
8 years agoWhat you have drawn seems to be about right IF the floor to floor measurement is 121". A little different way to go might be to push the stairs back into the hall wall 4". This would give you 7 9/16" risers and 10 1/4" treads (run) with a 1" nosing overhang for a total tread depth of 11 1/4" which is actually a significant improvement in how comfortable the stairs are.
This, however, gives you 29-30" between the wall and the front of the toilet instead of about 33". Here is how I might tweek it to get the best compromise, just to show another option. A 2'-4" door is big enough for that size powder room.
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8 years agoSomething jumped out at me today that changes this a little bit. The exact wording in the IRC is not something I have paid attention to on this point because I have never tried to fit this into such a tight space, and have always been able to change the floor plans to include what is desired in better ways when starting from scratch. I think the headroom that we were using before is most comfortable, but the code actually allows for less due to how it says to measure the 80" (6'-8")
http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/icod/irc/2012/icod_irc_2012_3_sec005.htm
2. Bathrooms shall have a minimum ceiling height of 6 feet 8 inches (2032 mm) at the center of the front clearance area for fixtures as shown in Figure R307.1. The ceiling height above fixtures shall be such that the fixture is capable of being used for its intended purpose. A shower or tub equipped with a showerhead shall have a minimum ceiling height of 6 feet 8 inches (2032 mm) above a minimum area 30 inches (762 mm) by 30 inches (762 mm) at the showerhead.
The clearance area shown in figure R307.1 is 21".
http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/icod/irc/2012/icod_irc_2012_3_sec007.htm
That should give you another 10.5" over what I previously drew if you need it, but iI wouldn't push the toilet back any more than necessary or taller people could hit their head with that steep of ceiling.
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