Should we lose a bedroom for upstairs bathroom?

2 years ago

Recently bought an end of terrace with 3 beds upstairs and a downstairs bathroom.

Thinking about moving the bathroom into bedroom 3 and creating a bigger kitchen downstairs. Can’t create a 2 story extension or convert into the loft as we are in a conservation area.

Would appreciate any ideas and thoughts on alternative layouts.

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Wumi

2 years ago

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Almost identical 1st floor layout as me. The previous owner cut off part of the larger bedroom to make an upstairs bathroom.

Purple - half wall

Green - dining

Pink - lounge

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Reniam Limited
2 years ago
To think about.. Is there anyone who lives at the property struggle going up the stairs to use the bathroom? Or you could consider having the bathroom in bedroom 3 and placing a cloakroom in the store room if you have the space there.

Alongside this, since there is a front living room, perhaps consider opening up the dining room with the kitchen
Sandy thanked Reniam Limited
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Sandy
Original Author
2 years ago
@Wumi that looks exactly them same as our house! Really love the design!

Do you know the dimensions of your front bedroom and bathroom?

Do feel like there is enough space in each room?
Wumi
2 years ago
Ah! No, the floorplan I posted was a suggestion for YOUR house. I was just commenting on how similar the 1st floor is to mine (just read back my comment and realised how confusing it was - sorry!)

Here is MY 1st floor. We use the top right room as the master and find the space works well for us.
rinked
2 years ago
We sacrificed our smallest bedroom to create a bathroom. Family of three. But we do have a downstairs loo.
Sandy
Original Author
2 years ago
Thanks for clarifying Wumi, I got so excited when I saw that floor plan! Ah so I think you’re dimensions are slightly bigger than ours, I’m worried that losing a chunk of bedroom will leave the remaining room too small.

At lot of other houses in the area have turned the box room into a bathroom, @rinked, that’s what we’re leaning towards. Plus we wouldn’t have to move the soil pipe as the existing bathroom is at the front of the house already. And downstairs WC is also what we’re thinking.

I guess we need to check with a local estate agent to see how this will impact value of the house in the long term 💭
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Kelly’s Eye Interiors
2 years ago
Hi. If you are going to move the bathroom upstairs, you could lose the inner hallway to the back door and put in a downstairs wc / small utility. Open up the space across the rear of the house by knocking out between the kitchen and existing bath, then put patio doors or by folds out to the rear. Putting in a downstairs loo and utility will also help to uphold the value of your property too.
rinked
2 years ago
Played a bit with your floorplan.
Sandy
Original Author
2 years ago
Thank you for your ideas rinked.
What do you use to edit floorplans?
rinked
2 years ago
I use Gimp to edit images.
rinked
2 years ago
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Toilet not directly off dining, door towards back entry to keep out cold, storage still intact, slightly smaller kitchen but large glass garden door (tall units opposite worktop):
Sandy
Original Author
2 years ago
We’re thinking of knocking through to make the kitchen and bathroom one room, add some bifolds to the back, having an open plan kitchen dining area, knocking out the wall between the two stores and turning that into a downstairs loo maybe with a wash machine too if there’s space.

We’re worried about a lack of light if we keep the downstairs bathroom room seperate, opening it out a bit will give us more sun light.
Sandy
Original Author
2 years ago
Like the idea of using that bathroom as a loo/ utility. If light wasn’t an issue.

Plus we’ve got a big green garden in the back, so we want an outside/in feel to the place.
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Kelly’s Eye Interiors
2 years ago
What is the roof like above the kitchen / existing bathroom. Could you pop a Velux into the roof of the loo / utility?
rinked
2 years ago
If the full walls can be removed (might require some steel) it would also be an idea to relocate the entire kitchen so you can eat with garden views. And since some storage is needed fo vacuum cleaner and such, imagine ceiling height units with washing machine and such in it.
Sandy
Original Author
2 years ago
That’s a lovely idea - that’d really add to the outside in feel.
Do you think it’s worth knocking all the downstairs walls through? Or keeping the living room separate?
The roof is currently flat, we’re contemplating changing it to a pitched roof and adding a couple of long windows
VRP
2 years ago
We have just bought a house with a similar layout and need to keep our three bedrooms but really need to squeeze a bathroom upstairs but fear it will make our bedroom really small!
We can't afford to go up in the loft for a few years and don't really want to have just the downstairs bathroom until then!
rinked
2 years ago
@VRP is it a mid terrace? Any double storey extensions in your neighbourhood? Loft conversions?
rinked
2 years ago
@Sandy i typed a reply yesterday but it's gone.. Open plan would be nice, as you could put the dining table in the front, so the lounge does not have a traffic line in it.

You can't move the front door behind the stairs, can you? (no exterior changes allowed, right?)
VRP
2 years ago
@rinked it's an end terrace. There is a house a few doors along who have a dorma. The house's are all different quiet different. And only a few are the same. We can't afford to extend at the moment or go up in the loft so thinking of trying to get a small bathroom upstairs for now.
rinked
2 years ago
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Gosh, comments disappear into thin air again.. Let's try again..

@VRP the best spot for a bathroom is the smallest bedroom. By doing so, live with the two beds until you have saved enough for a dormer on the loft and a second staircase. The kitchen is a project on it's own as well, so you'll have two bathrooms for the time being.

Or wait until you can do the loft and bathroom at the same time if you really really can't live without the third bed. Priorities.
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My Bathroom Designer
2 years ago
Hi Sandy

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Wumi
2 years ago
last modified: 2 years ago
@VRP You have similar dimensions to my upstairs and could possibly fit in a bathroom by truncating the master without sacrificing the smallest bedroom.

Here is my layout

The wall on the landing (in blue) was knocked down to a half wall.

Your layout could be:
VRP
2 years ago
@wumi this would be the best option for us but the only thing that stops us from putting it there is if we did decide to do a loft conversions conversion we've lost the cupboard in our room where we would put the stairs. Plus realistically how much would it cost putting it at the front of the house to having it on the side of the house?

When did you get yours done and how much did it cost if you don't mind me asking?
Wumi
2 years ago
Fair enough! If you're getting on a loft conversion further down the line, it'd be wiser to just convert the smallest bedroom as @rinked suggested.

I can't advise on cost as the bathroom was put in by the previous owners 5 years ago, who likely benefited from the fact the soil stack is on the side of the house rather than the back.

We don't really have the roof height for us to consider a loft conversion, most people in my area with end-terrace/semi detached properties opt for double storey extensions to add an extra bedroom or make a upper bedroom bigger.
arc3d
2 years ago
If your 3rd bedroom is not in use and it's directly above the existing bathroom the cost of turning it into a bathroom will be minimal. If you are worried about house value leave the downstairs bathroom where it is use it as a loo-tility. Then just remove the upstairs bathroom when your ready to move.
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Copper Dust
2 years ago
Just looking through the thread definitely makes sense to bring the bathroom upstairs for convenience and layout. Knock the wall to make an open plan kitchen space, complete with large glass doors/windows. Pipes run directly below, so the cost shouldn't be too crazy. The idea is to get as much natural light so the space feels bright and airy.

Should we lose a bedroom for upstairs bathroom?

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