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Flooring

Beth Bickel
Beth Bickel
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ceemimi

Stairs are done! And it I love it! My panic attack over the oak staircase and maple floor was really a non-issue. What do you guys think? Here are some before and after pics...

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Reply to: Stairs are done! And it I love it! My panic attack over the oak staircase and maple floor was really a non-issue. What do you guys think? Here are some before and after pics...

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rockbrookway
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electrical outlets in floor??

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Outlets in floor

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J C
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What colour should our couch be?

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Living room flooring for Hallet and Co

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Beth Bickel
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HELP! How would you handle this flooring dilemma?

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Jie Chen
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Has anyone used dealt with return policies on flooring?

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Restocking fee

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jef22
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Red oak floors look pink

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Pink tone in red oak

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heathercardone

Gorgeous! Adding ours now that we're finished and bc this forum has been so helpful - Riad's snow with mapei's avalanche grout

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Reply to: Gorgeous! Adding ours now that we're finished and bc this forum has been so helpful - Riad's snow with mapei's avalanche grout

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yeluning
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cupping floor in new construction

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Cupping issue

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ashleyhtx
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Non-wirebrushed engineered wood floors?

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tkgriff
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Here are photos of Bona Nordic and Bona Natural on white oak

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White Fireplace

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tom5872

Went down super slow. Like G and S said, you’ll need to work one row at a time while checking milling congruency. Hard wood is wood, it’s going to scratch and it’s going to get dented. The longevity of the floor will largely depend on your lifestyle and habits. The average person that walks into my home loves the floor. To a carpenter, it’s subpar. There is only so much one can do with sub par products. Buying flooring from LL needs to be carefully considered. Don’t let the cheap price seduce you into a hastened purchase. Take your time. Look at forums like these. Look for the good and the bad reviews. I’m my instance, as aggregating as the install process was and the defects here and there, I got what I paid for and I’m ok with that in the end. Most importantly my wife is happy. FYI, I bought the stair treads from LL so they’d match the floor. The floors are Bellawood character white oak. Beware, the treads in this product only come in semi gloss. Which is crazy slippery. Just make sure to ask if ordering treads what the sheen is. I have three kids and I had to reteach them how to walk on stairs because the are super slippery.

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Reply to: Went down super slow. Like G and S said, you’ll need to work one row at a time while checking milling congruency. Hard wood is wood, it’s going to scratch and it’s going to get dented. The longevity of the floor will largely depend on your lifestyle and habits. The average person that walks into my home loves the floor. To a carpenter, it’s subpar. There is only so much one can do with sub par products. Buying flooring from LL needs to be carefully considered. Don’t let the cheap price seduce you into a hastened purchase. Take your time. Look at forums like these. Look for the good and the bad reviews. I’m my instance, as aggregating as the install process was and the defects here and there, I got what I paid for and I’m ok with that in the end. Most importantly my wife is happy. FYI, I bought the stair treads from LL so they’d match the floor. The floors are Bellawood character white oak. Beware, the treads in this product only come in semi gloss. Which is crazy slippery. Just make sure to ask if ordering treads what the sheen is. I have three kids and I had to reteach them how to walk on stairs because the are super slippery.

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LL 5" natural white oak

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Mackey's MPI Inc.

Hi, Yes we had them reinstalled and they are the rift and quartered select white oak. I love my floors but the company and that mill were not honest and I wouldn't use them again for sure. We had to go through a lot of trouble, mess and time to get them right. We did a combo finish 50/50 in ebony and jacobean with a satin finish.

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Reply to: Hi, Yes we had them reinstalled and they are the rift and quartered select white oak. I love my floors but the company and that mill were not honest and I wouldn't use them again for sure. We had to go through a lot of trouble, mess and time to get them right. We did a combo finish 50/50 in ebony and jacobean with a satin finish.

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K R
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Hardwood Stairs: planks vs solid treads

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Matching Hardwood Planks

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Uptown Floors

General flooring stores will push planks and nosings on stairs as a very slim handful of manufacturers offer matching stair treads. And your average hardwood installer doesn't know how to install solid treads properly. Depending on where you live there's bound to be somebody that would have a go at matching the distressing. However, I'm sure the cost will be way up there. For others that may stumble across this discussion in the future, matching treads, vents and other mill work is a specialty. I've handled jobs that included the floor, stairs, baseboard and casings. Need extra stain? No problem. Along with some uncommon items such as knee wall caps and crown molding from time to time. Matching Stair Treads & Other Mill work

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Reply to: General flooring stores will push planks and nosings on stairs as a very slim handful of manufacturers offer matching stair treads. And your average hardwood installer doesn't know how to install solid treads properly. Depending on where you live there's bound to be somebody that would have a go at matching the distressing. However, I'm sure the cost will be way up there. For others that may stumble across this discussion in the future, matching treads, vents and other mill work is a specialty. I've handled jobs that included the floor, stairs, baseboard and casings. Need extra stain? No problem. Along with some uncommon items such as knee wall caps and crown molding from time to time. Matching Stair Treads & Other Mill work

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Matching Stair Treads

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TBL from CT

Because this is a secondary area, I, personally, would fill, caulk, and paint everything white. A flat weave or low pile stair runner would be a more modern look than carpeted treads.

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Reply to: Because this is a secondary area, I, personally, would fill, caulk, and paint everything white. A flat weave or low pile stair runner would be a more modern look than carpeted treads.

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Carpeted stair treads

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J. Clark
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Bellawood from Lumber Liquidators

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LL Bellawood floors

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SJ McCarthy

I have often found that homeowners make some of the best installers because they KNOW they don't know. So they READ. Congratulations on all your hard work. You are doing a great job. For the issues you have found with the flooring you have purchased, your patience with the product would NOT have been matched by a professional. Not unless they were paid VERY HANDSOMELY. I'm so glad you took an abundance of caution and over purchased. Keep the culled stuff. If it turns out to be MORE than what LL says you need (some say 10% waste...others require 15% waste...check your product's recommended waste allotment) then you can get a refund on the damaged planks ABOVE the required amount amount. Example: You purchased 1000sf (just to keep numbers nice and round). The documents say 15% waste. Of that 1000sf, you can be ASSURED there will be 150sf of 'nasty'. Now you go ahead and cull what is nasty and install the rest (so far so goo). You look at your culled pile to find it contains 250sf of 'bad' boards. That means you have 25% milling issues. That's 10% more than advertised. Go ahead and take all 250sf back to LL and ask for a refund. They will play hardball. You know you want the 10% refunded. That's the bare minimum you will accept. And the 'extra' you are keeping to make repairs in the future are NOT the 'culled' items. The extras will be the 'good stuff'. So don't let them con you into keeping all that waste to be used 'just in case'. Tell them you already have your extras set aside.

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Reply to: I have often found that homeowners make some of the best installers because they KNOW they don't know. So they READ. Congratulations on all your hard work. You are doing a great job. For the issues you have found with the flooring you have purchased, your patience with the product would NOT have been matched by a professional. Not unless they were paid VERY HANDSOMELY. I'm so glad you took an abundance of caution and over purchased. Keep the culled stuff. If it turns out to be MORE than what LL says you need (some say 10% waste...others require 15% waste...check your product's recommended waste allotment) then you can get a refund on the damaged planks ABOVE the required amount amount. Example: You purchased 1000sf (just to keep numbers nice and round). The documents say 15% waste. Of that 1000sf, you can be ASSURED there will be 150sf of 'nasty'. Now you go ahead and cull what is nasty and install the rest (so far so goo). You look at your culled pile to find it contains 250sf of 'bad' boards. That means you have 25% milling issues. That's 10% more than advertised. Go ahead and take all 250sf back to LL and ask for a refund. They will play hardball. You know you want the 10% refunded. That's the bare minimum you will accept. And the 'extra' you are keeping to make repairs in the future are NOT the 'culled' items. The extras will be the 'good stuff'. So don't let them con you into keeping all that waste to be used 'just in case'. Tell them you already have your extras set aside.

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Flooring Waste Percentage and Refund

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Beth H. :

best return would be not to do the laminate. any reason you can't do engineered hardwood? not getting the baseboard thing. If you are putting in laminate flooring in the living spaces, how would they not have to change the baseboards? are you considering doing a shoe molding w/the laminate?? and if you are changing baseboards, regardless, get this one also, are you selling the home? No one who walks in a home is going to say, "oh good. they have vinyl over real wood!" yay! a really, really good laminate will cost as much as a good engineered wood floor. a properly done, good looking wood floor will always give a better return.

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Reply to: best return would be not to do the laminate. any reason you can't do engineered hardwood? not getting the baseboard thing. If you are putting in laminate flooring in the living spaces, how would they not have to change the baseboards? are you considering doing a shoe molding w/the laminate?? and if you are changing baseboards, regardless, get this one also, are you selling the home? No one who walks in a home is going to say, "oh good. they have vinyl over real wood!" yay! a really, really good laminate will cost as much as a good engineered wood floor. a properly done, good looking wood floor will always give a better return.

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Baseboards

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oliveandwell
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Mullican Nordic Naturals?

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J T
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Help! Tile placement around and under range hood

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Mohawk TECwood Brownstone Oak engineered flooring

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Janka ratings useless in engineered flooring

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Hardwood Flooring Wishlist

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4" site finished

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Mirage Isla

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Mirage Isla white oak

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Which direction to lay flooring

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Cochran's Lumber in Berryville VA

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Provenza Warnings

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Moisture levels

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Provenza Road Trip & Paradigm Conquest Tower

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LL Flooring White Birch

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Provenza New York Loft Sugar Hill

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Brand recommendations

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Hardwood flooring and pool drips

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Bona finishes

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Raintree Aspen Estate Castle Creek

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Raintree Soleil

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Raintree ends-use silicone sealer

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Raintree First Flurry

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Raintree Soleil

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Raintree Castle Creek

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Raintree First Flurry and Sandstone

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Raintree Hermitage

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Raintree Soleil

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Raintree Flooring discussion

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Raintree Laguna Vibes Sandstone

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Rain tree Laguna Vibes driftwood

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Rain tree Soleil color

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Purezawood

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Woodco online color recommendations

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Hallmark Balboa

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Hallmark Floors

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Hallmark Alta Vista line

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Naturally Aged Flooring Medallion collection Hickory Countryside stain

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