Kitchen design dilemma

last year

We are currently looking at the design of our kitchen and dining area, the kitchen is 6.2 meters wideand 8.3 in length, celings are not vaulted. Our issue is the kitchen too wide,

units aren't going to link up because of doors? I'm considering a low wall as a divide as I would like some separation between the kitchen and dining area or asking builder if he would take in some blocks in kitchen but leave the dining at 6.2m wide, I would have liked the L design kitchen but it wasn't an option with the layout. Any advise greatly recieved.

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last year

With your last image -I’d suggest you widen the central walkway walkway 2m clear there - it will help it feel less oppressive maybe put in a bench seat into the boot room side too - to break things up a bit … steal the extra 1m from the kitchen side .

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Jonathan
last year
Twin islands?
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Joanne cranny
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last year
Hi jonathan, thank you would you think turning the island towards the window would work better?
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Jonathan
last year
No.

Because you need a clear route between the islands to get to the tall cabinets where you have ovens and a fridge.
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Create Perfect
last year
Hello Kkty,

Has the architect drawn these plans up in 3D for you? My clients find it helpful to see what they will be looking at when they walk in the room - this gives you a much better idea of scale.

I would imagine from what I can see that the walkways are about 1.2m each and the island is 2.6m roughly - this is all fine for the size of the space. I think if you turn it towards the window it makes the room feel very long - not balancing the already long space. It will also leave big walkways between the island and the side runs which will feel uncomfortable.

Maybe it is worth asking if they can or have done it in 3D to help you visualise it. We do 3 options in 3D with our layout package - all with walk-around videos. Starting with an in-depth briefing session means that the space is actually then customised to you and how you use it as well as to the size of the space - ensuring the spaces are the correct size for what you need.

I hope it helps. Best of luck with your project - do come back and let us know what you went for.
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Joanne cranny
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last year
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Hi thank you very much, iI have decided to resubmit plans still unsure but iI think its better
Jonathan
last year
Don’t waste your time resubmitting your planning application until you have a cohesive plan that you love. I preferred your first plan - my only concern about it was that the two sideways wings caused some issues with insulation, cost, the roof and possible rooms above.

Consider posting the whole plan for comment
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Joanne cranny
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last year
Ok, , thanks jonathan my issue is that i want a u or an L but doors of the sitting room are lrevenyinvpreventing this
CWD
last year
I agree with Jonathan that your first plan was better - or his two island suggestion. That big corner of windows is worth not having an L or U shaped kitchen - which btw have a lot of wasted space in the corners. You have a huge room and I think you should try out a few other options with island/s in the middle. I don't mind having ovens isolated from the kitchen triangle, but you do need fridge, sink and cooktop all in the same zone (i.e. not have an island separating them). So I think your idea of having an island turned the other way would work. You might want to bring one of the kitchen side walls forward to create a large walk-in pantry area, rather than a full wall of tall cabinets.
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Joanne cranny
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last year
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Thank you. Would it be better to not connect sitting room to msin kitvhrn living area
Jonathan
last year
So is this a new build or is there an existing building that needs to be worked with.
Jonathan
last year
Also….. couple of extra questions:
is this a remote plot? I ask because the corner windows might have privacy concerns if you are close to neighbours.

And we’re will the driveway and/or garage be? I ask because if people park near your back door they may never walk around the living room wing to use the grand main entrance.
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Dan Anderson
last year
I have a similar kitchen and it is wonderful, the best room in the house, even. It always comes down to personal opinion, though, and my honest opinion is that your new plans are awful. I would not want to trade what I have for that incongruous juxtaposition you are calling an improvement 😧 it looks like an extension gone wrong.
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Dee
last year
Alternatively on the original design you could have an L shape protruding from one of the side walls , but you would need to remove units from the opposite wall , which will allow you to have a longer island since you will have more clearance towards the empty wall. Then you can have a tall bank if units by the separate living room wall with a hidden door into that living room.
Dee
last year
Like this
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Jonathan
last year
An alternative 250 square meter house plan. Perhaps having your kitchen/ dining/ tv space arranged like this would avoid worries of the kitchen being a high traffic area.

I did think less external wall space would mean lower heating bills too.
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Joanne cranny
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last year
Thanks everyone for advice,

was considering changing to the attached plan
Dee
last year
That’s a much better flow. I like the boot room position and kitchen layout. Consider a double door into the kitchen to add to the grandeur
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Joanne cranny
Original Author
last year
Is this a kitchen we could put in this kitchen plans
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Joanne cranny
Original Author
last year
Do you mean make the bootroom 2m yes?
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Kitchen Co-Ordination
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I - too - agree with Jonathan the first plan works the best - the room flows and this is the result that you would need - stick to this plan - then get a kitchen designer to help you with the layout