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onwh

In reply to Sheena 46. Builders have a schedule to stick to, and usually time constraints set by clients. Items have to be ordered in good time to ensure they are there when the builder needs them. Not have to wait possibly weeks because the client didn’t get around to ordering or didn’t take into account the sometimes 8 to 12 week lead time for a product to arrive which could halt the project. Also if the builder has priced a project he may be passing on discounts to the client that tradespeople get that the general public don’t.

   
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mandy carmichael

We planned and researched architects a year ahead of our first project,... to convert a gally kitchen into bathroom with shower area and separate toilet to be installed in preparation for building 21sqm single floor kitchen/utility/ dining room extension. Following the architects recommended structural engineering tenders. However, we also invited building tenders who verified good structural engineers they'd worked with too was more helpful.
We went with the first available builder recommend by the architect to install phase 1 of the project.
We choose a mature builder with 40yrs experience, but his patter was better than the work and we are pressured into installing the work 3 months prior to what we'd intended. And as we later learned the architect knew the builder and his plumber had issues that later impacted on the work.
We provided a contract and schedule of work which started in the October, as we'd purchased our furniture including other materials, (tiles, lights, doors ect,).
I had to mark up and show where the toilet stud walls were needed when the architect, who remained uncontactable for 3weeks didn't help clarify his drawings.
I spoke daily and had to constantly persuade the builder to use our purchased furniture and materials (wall and floor tiles, shower unit, radiators, doors, lighting, toilet ect).
The buikder was always late or didn't show up, and finally he left me and my disabled husband with no wash facilities, just an empty shell 2 weeks before Christmas.
My son, a new builds engineer, rang his friends who completed the work - tiled and installed the bathroom furniture in less than a week. After the work was completed, the pipework constructed under the floor by the builder also sprung a leak!
The whole thing was a nightmare. Advice I would give is to definitely not be pressured into having work done before you want it doing, To try n test any potential builder with few small jobs before employing them for anything larger. Explore tenders outside of those recommend by the architect, and if unhappy find someone else.

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Jon R

I think the point in there is that not all architects and builders are alike: we had a great relationship with ours (after getting a couple in to speak to us and ruling out the ones who didn't listen to us or set out clearly what they would do) and have been able to ring her up for occasional advice even though we're managing the execution of the project. She wasn't the most expensive, she was the one who clearly 'got' us and understood our level of (non-existent) expertise. The builders that she put us on to were great in terms of quality, but they definitely were used to working with bigger-budget clients and this led to some communications issues when we get past the structural stuff: we ironed those out eventually, but it did take some work to realise what was going on and that we had a different set of expectations about what their quote included (they were assuming that we *wanted* to source all our own kit).

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