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Selvig Development Inc.

Hi Connie Hadley - Really had a tough time following the link to answer you question so I hope this works.


Q: What is the average cost to remodel the master bathroom that is rather large.?


A: There really is not an "average cost" as we've done gut remodels on bathrooms for $60k-$200k. Those jobs, typically in older homes, almost always require re-framing of structural framing as plumbers have cut support out of the floors for the past 100 years, running new water lines, running new electrical circuits (code req'd upgrades), dealing with lead or asbestos, etc.


If your home is relatively new - Read: has not had too many past remodels - hopefully you won't have those additional cost to deal with. To get started on rough pricing, decide on how much you want to spend on the project. This will, by default, set the scope of work. If its $2k then swap out a vanity and maybe a toilet. If it's $50k you have a lot more work you can do.


Determine the current condition of the space (Good, bad, train wreck?), decided on any changes to the floor plan and be honest with yourself if that is a substantial change(s) to the existing space. Run a long straight edge over your walls and floors to see if the surfaces are out of plane which will require straightening if the tile is to sit flat. Take some basic measurements of the size of the room and the location of the fixtures and draw them up. You can do a second drawing with these dimensions showing what the proposed improvements will be.


Next add up all of the fixtures and price them, determine the tile you want and how many square feet you need ( add 10% overage for waste) choose your cabinetry and medicine cabs, price out all of the bath accessories you want (towel bars, TP holder, etc.) and include any other items you might want to add (heated floors, steam unit, etc.).


Then with that in hand start speaking with a local contractor or two (labor and install prices vary wildly by geographic market). I know this does exactly answer your question, but in doing this preliminary assessment yourself, the contractors will see that you are serious and have take the initiative to start collecting the components of the scope and will provide pricing that is as specific as you have been.


Hope that helps get your project started.

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coray

Connie, your question leaves a lot open to interpretation. A rather large bathroom to some means 70 sf, to others 250 sf. Here’s an idea, however, my numbers are pre-Covid. I read on Houzz, a few years ago, that for a bathroom remodel, as a rule of thumb, one should expect to spend $5-7k per ”piece”, meaning toilet, vanity, tub, shower etc. If you’ve got 2 sinks, tub, shower, 1 toilet you have a 5-piece bathroom, so expect to spend between $25 and 35 k. I imagine this number would be higher right now. We remodeled our 165 sf primary bathroom in 2016; no walls were moved, removed or added, but we ran new plumbing for our 4’ x 7' shower to where a very large Jaccuzzi tub previously stood, and terminated the old shower lines. Where the previous owners had a dining room hutch (yeah, odd), we put a FS tub, so new plumbing was needed. The large double vanity's spot remained in the same location, as did the WC; in the old shower locstion we placed a large FS linen closet. We got new sconces over the sinks, 2 medicine cabinets, and all the other pieces are new, as well. Our 1.5 shower glass walls are frameless low iron glass, less green, and fairly tall (we have 10' ceilings). My husband did most of the old tile demo and installed the 2 med cabs, but everything else was done by pros. Our shower floor is marble, but all other tile is fairly inexpensive porcelain….an excellent choice for floors and walls alike. I ordered Kohler sinks and Grohe fittings online, and our towel holders etc are by Samuel Heath, so definitely not el cheapo. I think the whole thing cost us a bit over $30 K, definitely less than 35 K. Had we gone with Waterworks tub, Robern med cabs, marble everywhere, that number would have been at least $15 K higher. Much of these costs are driven by your choices, obviously, so you xan control that somewhat. I cannot even imagine what a $200 K bathroom would look like, but I'm sure it's possible to spend that much. I know this post is super long, but hopefully it will give you some idea. Good luck!

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Amanda Jellema

In terms of budgets... there's no set answer.


How high end are your materials? How old is the building? Have you renovated previously? Are you doing any or all of the work yourself? Having done multiple bathroom renos in our house (all by ourselves) over the past 12 years it's important to anticipate what you will need for each portion of the project. Working in the engineering field I have learned that what you see as a finished product is the tip of the iceberg in terms of cost. What starts as a "why isn't my sink draining?" went from snaking the drain, to removing the pedestal sink, finding the rotten subfloor, removing the flooring/subfloor and finding the cut up joists that were hanging on by hopes and prayers... not even threads. Discovering the drain went uphill and changed direction 4 times across an 8 foot wide bathroom. Then we noticed the existing wiring in the kitchen below had no insulation and signs of shorting out.... then a kitchen reno ensued and we had to redo 2 storeys on the budget of a small DIY bathroom with $10,000 spread over two years of paychecks. Do your due diligence, investigate as much as possible before committing to a plan. Have all the materials you need before beginning demolition, and have a contingency budget for unknown surprises. Being a new homeowner with a young family, we couldn't afford to do any of the finishes we intended and had to cut costs significantly to get the wiring, plumbing, ventilation and exterior insulation along with structure up to code before we could even drywall. That meant a used set of kitchen cabinets bamboo countertops, cheap vinyl flooring, acrylic tub and shower surrounds and the cheapest vanity we could find and making do without a completely finished space until we could afford to do another portion of the project. We are now finally re-doing it to upgrade finishes knowing full well that the bones of the room are good and with the increased material costs doing it ourselves we are already in for $15,000 before the floor/paint/trim, keeping an existing vanity, toilet and the original acrylic tub and there is no labour included. For labour costs assume 2x your material costs for a reasonable ball park if you are providing all materials.


If you are buying a fully finished vanity with counter top from a box store because it seems more affordable - consider that most of these are free-standing furniture style, and if you sit them against a wall there will be gaps at the bottom where the counter overhangs, and you will have a hard time finishing against the wall at the counter top especially if there is a beveled edge.

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