Crittall-style fire door???

Nicola Philbin

4 years ago

Has anyone seen such a thing? It's for an internal doorway.

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Nicola Philbin
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3 years ago

Unfortunately Stuart I didn’t and have given up looking!

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At No 19
4 years ago
Hi Nicola, Todd doors have a door called Odense. It is modelled on the concept of Crittal but it is wood/composite not metal. It is available in solid and glass versions in 44mm 30 minute fire doors.. I saw it during a visit to their showroom last week. Painted black with copper handles, it looked really good. I’ve specified them for two new builds where they will be painted with F&B Elephants Breath!
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Nicola Philbin
Original Author
4 years ago
Thankyou so much At No 19 - that looks very interesting. Can I ask please which showroom you saw it in?!
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At No 19
4 years ago
Hi Nicola, it was their Bournemouth showroom but I imagine it should be on display in their other showrooms around the country. Hope it fits the bill!
Anees Rana
4 years ago
Hi,

I am currently undergoing a big renovation of our family house and had the same question regarding FD30 firedoors that look like crittal! The Odense looks really good - good find! My problem, however, is that my openings are a none standard size so have had to look at bespoke options (which are very expensive!)

This is what I have found:

https://www.emeralddoors.co.uk/bespoke-fire-doors/industrial-style-custom-made-fire-door

Extra glazing bars can be added to mimic crittal - but I think they are extremely expensive!

Hope that helps
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Tiziana Meciani Interior Design
4 years ago
Fabco do them bespoke in metal with thin profiles.
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At No 19
4 years ago
Hi Anees, Todd are making me a 137cm wide Odense door for a very modest extra cost.
Nicola Philbin
Original Author
4 years ago
Thankyou Anees - I agree, the emerald doors one is very expensive - that was also the only one I have found - and it isn't even a terribly good Crittall likeness.

Tiziana - I have sent a message to Fabco, their website looks great - I hope they do a fire rated version that doesn't cost the earth.

Val - I just spoke to Todds Doors in Bournemouth (I was very happy to kow they are in Bournemouth, my daughter just started art school there!). However they told me they don't do the glazed version of the Odense as a fire door? Only the solid version? Have you managed to order a fire door version glazed? It looks great, I was very hopeful, but now feeling like this clearly just isn't going to be possible.....
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At No 19
4 years ago
Hi Nicola - no, I have only specified solid; apologies I understood the glazed version was also available in a 44mm. What a shame; I don't really understand why not since many of their other glazed doors are (becasue I've used them).
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OnePlan
4 years ago
It’s written on their website that it’s a glazed fire door . Shame it’s too good to be true.
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At No 19
4 years ago
Yes it is, I saw that when checking myself last night. I‘ll be ‘having a word‘ with my rep, very misleading and disappointing for Nicola...
Stuart Morrow
3 years ago
Hi Nicola, did you manage to find what you were looking for in the end? Would be interested to know what you ended up with.

We are doing a refurbishment in London and looking for a crittal style fire rated door. Appearing to be a lot harder (and more expensive) than we initially thought. We are now considering a non-fire rated door with sprinklers, but that doesn't seem much cheaper.
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Kay Moden
3 years ago
@Stuart Morrow

Check up with these guys.

https://www.houzz.co.uk/pro/webuser-240019018/bespoke-glazing-design

Last time we looked for a fire rated screen they provided the best design and price compared to others. As far as I remember they work with crittall system, rather than replicating it.

As you said these don't come cheap, but it really depends on the size of the system you need, as they are typically priced by sqm. Also the door to fixed glazing ratio will impact the cost as well.

Hope this helps!
Stuart Morrow
3 years ago
Thanks for getting back to me Nicola. That's a shame.

And thanks Kay. I will take a look.
HU-764495420
3 years ago
Stuart did you ever find anything?
cazieann
3 years ago
We’ve just moved into an apartment and want to replace the doors with Crittall style and despite asking if the doors were fire rated, we were told no however after moving in the other day it’s become apparent they are.

So obviously I’ve got to change my plan and increase my budget and looking to get in touch with these guys as the website gives good advice.

http://www.steelwindowanddoor.co.uk/fire-rated-w20-steel-doors/
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User
3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago
Hello, https://www.houzz.co.uk/hznb/projects/aluminium-doors-pj-vj~6503374 also you can have a look at our web profildoors.co.uk and find our doors Serie AG https://drive.google.com/file/d/12zBCLe5GZVX72NApFCcDOwgVOd_xEJ8y/view which are aluminium one in different styles, designs and finishes. Hope this will help. If interested do not hesitate to contact us for more information.
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Bespoke Glazing Design
2 years ago
Unfortunately Crittall is the only company doing FR glazing Crittall style.
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Original Steel Doors
2 years ago
Hello, we offer slim steel and glass fore tested doors to 30 minutes fire integrity.

Do let us know your requirements and we may be able to assist.

Thanks, Chris
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OnePlan
2 years ago
Chris @steelwinowsanddoors can you post a picture of the fire doors in crittal style that you offer please ? And maybe give an idea if approx prices too ? Thanks
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Original Steel Doors
2 years ago
Hello, our fire specification doors are all custom made to the required sizes. Do email us hello@designpluslondon.co.uk the size of door/screen required and we can provide a quote.

Please see photo of single door below.
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Bespoke Glazing Design
last year
JANISOL range might be a solution.
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ALUMINIUM TRADE SUPPLY
last year
Hello.

Aluminium as a material has no fire rating, so these will have to be a steel fire-rated product. You don't have to go with only Crittall® there are other providers of these.

You can also do these with enhanced aluminium that has fire protection modifications such as internal fire insulation or aluminium profiles clad with steel. It's not the same as the steel product, but it comes with a fire rating and could work out cheaper if you like the styling.

Happy to help anyone with product information and advice if you'd like to get in touch.

Hope this helps

Nick
Mike Malyon
last year
Hello, hope it's okay to piggyback on this convo. We're looking for two 1400mm sliding crittal-style internal doors for our home renovation and they need to be fire-rated. Any suggestions for suppliers who may be able to help. Happy to go either aluminium or steel route, but it sounds like steel is be best option for the fire rating.
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Original Steel Doors
last year
Hi Mike,

We do have an internal steel and glass door system that has been tested for 30 minutes fire integrity. It actually was tested for 68 minutes.

However, this is only available as single or double hinged doors. As far as we are aware there are no sliding slim steel and glass doors that have been fire tested on the market.

I hope this helps.
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ALUMINIUM TRADE SUPPLY
last year
Yes, to the best of my knowledge there are no sliding doors I know of other than automatic sliding doors used in commercial applications, (plenty of those about and not Crittall® or steel look) so it looks like you might have to go down the hinged door route.

The steel windows associaltion i'd suggest are worth getting in touch with to ask if this product is available either as a standard system or whether it can be made-to-order.

Steel Window Association

info@steel-window-association.co.uk

https://steel-window-association.co.uk

7 Bell Yard,

London.

WC2A 2JR

020 3475 8049

Hope this helps

Kind regards,

Nick
Mike Malyon
last year
That’s really helpful, thanks to both of you! I’ll check out the steel window association and if not, we may need to go down the sprinkler route to keep building control satisfied if we stick to sliding doors :-/
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Bespoke Glazing Design
last year
@Mike Malyon our team can certainly help with this. Dm us your details and our designers will provide some options.

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